Thursday, January 15, 2009

Defending Bush




I have been commenting on Liberal Conspiracy as I often do and got into defending George Bush
Aaaron said -might argue that 9/11 had such a colossal and successful effect in shaping American foreign policy, that an encore was never necessary.

I said -
Such an argument would have to ignore the 2005 airline conspiracy which could very easily have killed another 3000. I`d say it was not overwhelmingly convincing as arguments go


We will have to wait and see what Obama does but I read a willingness to create multilateral approaches as a hint that others will have to take stop freeloading at the very least. As we well we know the choice may well be to act unilaterally , to a degree ,or not at all. Lets assume then that ,Obamah is not the vacuous hum-bug I suspect he is .If so he will be greatly indebted to the determination and courage of George Bush .
Until 9.11 violent jihadists enjoyed support across the word , Morocco and Indonesia appeased militants at home and encouraged them abroad . Saudi and UAE funded militant preachers . The Saudis financed extremist schools in many countries . UAE leaders are reported to have handed over sack loads if cash to Osama when they met at Kandahar airport . UAE and Saudi recognised the Taliban , with Pakistan . Sudan Syria and Yemen offered safe havens. In fact apart from Algeria nd Egypt ever Muslim state was on a spectrum of sympathy with al Quaeda and local outfits loosely associated with it . Pakistan went a good deal further , the ISI funded trained and armed the Taliban in Afghanistan and thousands of jihdists dedicated to killing Indians , in Kashmir and beyond.
This was the world that George Bush looked at as he counted the slaughter of innocent Americans British and many more . What you have all perhaps forgotten was that 9.11 was applauded by young Muslims all over the world as a call to arms . There was a very real danger of things getting far far worse . ( Have you forgotten the pictures of sophisticated wine drinking Tunisians celebrating with tears in their eyes ?).In fact active Islamisists suffered a catastrophic loss of status as the war machine wound up and it was stopped in its tracks .


Bush understood the imperative for decisive action clear choices . You were either with him or you were an enemy . He did not think that the world was good and evil you have misunderstood totally he knew it was not that’s the point .With so many shades of opinion the evil had to be isolated as much as possible . ( Plane shift note )After and initial period of denial the Saudi began to admit their responsibility for spreading Islamic insanity . The Saudi king convened an interfaith conference between Muslims Christians and Jews . They began to actively hunt down terrorists over 1000 of whom have been arrested . Indonesia stood with Bush and The changes in Pakistan have been perhaps more dramatic still.
Would Obamah have been up to it or would he just fanny around chatting .Well lets hope he has more about him than I detect. Iran listened to European posturing on Nuclear weapons and laughed , when America added “ or else” it was a different matter . Other achievements include good progress on denuclearisation his support for the surge . Incidentally he was the first MBA President with a higher grade average than John Kerry and is infinitely the intellectual superior of his childish detractors .

Take WMDs . In common with Saddams own Generals the French, Chinese ,Israeli Russian intelligence agencies , the SIS and CIA he assumed a dictator does not destroy a WMD arsenal he used against his own people and then expel the UN inspectorate looking for proof of it (in 98 and 2001) He expected to find them as well as mass graves torture chambers and abuse of the food for oil programme . They found all but the WMDs. He was part of the mainstream of informed opinion. On the other side is the funny fat man Michael Moore snickering .
Obama inherits a world that I very much doubt he would have done as much to make safe


PS This is another nice insight to the man
Meanwhile, African-Americans give little support to Bush — he got 11% of their vote in 2004 after taking 8% in 2000. Black leaders — such as NAACP Chairman Julian Bond, who has called Bush a liar, compared his judicial nominees to the Taliban and equated the GOP to Nazis — continue their shrill verbal assaults on the man.
Yet under Bush, the U.S. has boosted development and humanitarian aid to Africa from $1.4 billion in his first year in office to $4 billion a year today. He’s also sought $30 billion to fight AIDS.
Trade — far more efficient than aid — between our country and Africa has more than doubled during his terms. This administration has also actively sought to stop the genocide in Darfur and has led in attempts to end wars in Sierra Leone, Sudan and Congo.
As the U.S. press swoons over Barack Obama and his bromidic promise of “change” to the exclusion of almost all else, the African media have noticed Bush’s work.
It wasn’t the New York Times or ABC, but AllAfrica.com that gratefully acknowledged that Bush’s policies “have saved millions of (African) lives and lifted many others from abject poverty.“



12 comments:

mutleythedog said...

I wish your first comment on this post was better than this one. I do. I really do....

Newmania said...

Ha, no-one comments here Mutters and I do not have the time to post really

And when I do its a of of old cack

Hope all well

Scrobs said...

Newms - for no other reason than a wish for goodwill, I will sing (quietly), your praises as I glide through Lewes this morning at approximately 10.00am...

Newmania said...

I shall be long gone Scrobs

Daisy said...

obama's big push is to tax extra money from those who are comfortable and give it to the poor to stimulate the economy and eliminate the racial divide...i don't see it being successful...

Newmania said...

Doesn`t sound like the worst idea I have heard Daisy

Newmania said...

Doesn`t sound like the worst idea I have heard Daisy

Bill Quango MP said...

A really really good try.
But he is still going to be the number one candidate for Worst President Ever.
And that is up against some tough opposition.

AA said...

George W. Bush - conqueror of Baghdad, conqueror of Kabul and slayer of the Saddamites. Not bad credentials.

Withiel said...

Ah! Newmania in "snivelling lackey of war criminal", and "is quite racist" shocker! Spell the fucking President-Elect's name right at least, if you're incapable of engaging with reality.

Newmania said...

Thanks Withiel , I usually think of a cross between Ossamah and bomber which confuuses me .

Daisy said...

newmania perhaps if you knew the cut off point it would make a difference...he is talking about anyone making over 100k a year...that doesn't include taking out the money you pay out...and when i say comfortable...over here 100k is just enough to live for one month without a paycheck...

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