tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post6515900927517309278..comments2024-01-30T09:22:08.167+00:00Comments on Newmania In Lewes: Did Cameron Lie ?Newmaniahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-67174040369728439632010-08-20T21:36:50.135+01:002010-08-20T21:36:50.135+01:00Aha been searching for that quote for ages
&quo...Aha been searching for that quote for ages <br /><br />"I refuse to believe that any teenage girl would ever get pregnant in order to obtain a council flat. And even if I am wrong about this, it is to my credit that I do not believe it."<br />Fab <br /><br />Reminds me of Wittgenstein .Faced with the charge that his conclusions were invalidated by his initial assumptions he claimed logic could be used as a ladder and once you had reached certain level the steps taken getting there could be thrown away . Cobblers obviouslyNewmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-70217632098946518072010-08-20T21:19:22.528+01:002010-08-20T21:19:22.528+01:00I have name-checked you before Mr M, though perhap...I have name-checked you <a href="http://cityunslicker.blogspot.com/2009/12/blair-hattersley-and-kierkegaard-moral.html" rel="nofollow">before</a> Mr M, though perhaps just a little flippantly that time ...Nick Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670594203660051701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-90710810251566150522010-08-20T20:17:12.141+01:002010-08-20T20:17:12.141+01:00Coo fame at last , just the odd gallop Mr. DrewCoo fame at last , just the odd gallop Mr. DrewNewmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-84594947199652996212010-08-20T10:50:57.370+01:002010-08-20T10:50:57.370+01:00good post Mr M, I have name-checked you heregood post Mr M, I have name-checked you <a href="http://cityunslicker.blogspot.com/2010/08/piss-off-and-well-find-someone-bigger.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>Nick Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670594203660051701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-59770980237575105312010-08-20T07:00:48.059+01:002010-08-20T07:00:48.059+01:00What I was trying to say is that if they want to m...What I was trying to say is that if they want to make savings in the budget for Winter Fuel Allowance they should raise the age (perhaps as Camoron says to 66) rather than means test it.asquithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14246701347539264295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-22313309980968937592010-08-19T20:42:30.155+01:002010-08-19T20:42:30.155+01:00Ta , I rarely post so its nice to see a reaction ...Ta , I rarely post so its nice to see a reaction . I`m not sure I understand all of your comment Asquith sounds interesting.<br /><br />Don`t mind universal benefits really . The NHS , for example is not soemthing I would invent today but its there it works and it re-distributes from healthy to sick. <br /><br />Page - the problem is that thoseof us who have children paid for our lot and if we do not get it it is in effet a tax rise on the middling family <br /><br />As a Conservative that does not please me one bitNewmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-22047093384733712862010-08-19T20:42:29.302+01:002010-08-19T20:42:29.302+01:00Ta , I rarely post so its nice to see a reaction ...Ta , I rarely post so its nice to see a reaction . I`m not sure I understand all of your comment Asquith sounds interesting.<br /><br />Don`t mind universal benefits really . The NHS , for example is not soemthing I would invent today but its there it works and it re-distributes from healthy to sick. <br /><br />Page - the problem is that thoseof us who have children paid for our lot and if we do not get it it is in effet a tax rise on the middling family <br /><br />As a Conservative that does not please me one bitNewmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-35313661153376656562010-08-19T19:52:21.443+01:002010-08-19T19:52:21.443+01:00The post is spot on. Labour's pre-election bun...The post is spot on. Labour's pre-election bunker mentality spewed out a shed load of leftie abuse at Cameron in the hope that some of the mud would stick. <br /><br />The fact that WFA is universal is a bad thing (like child benefit). Why should we borrow money we can't afford, simply to waste it on rich pensioners or rich mums?<br /><br />Move the WFA age to 65 for all now and then keep it in line with the state pension age. And means test it.<br /><br />Cutting the amount is the worst of all worlds - the rich still get most of it even though they don't need it whilst the poor don't get enough to keep themselves warm.Page With A Viewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16284380675483880659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-43017292808616473222010-08-19T18:52:40.391+01:002010-08-19T18:52:40.391+01:00I agree with Mark Wadsworth, if they are going to ...I agree with Mark Wadsworth, if they are going to make savings in WFA it should be by raising the age rather than means-testing it. Things like pension credits discourage old-timers who are of the skilled working class & lower middle class from saving. I would raise the basic pension to protect the poorest, they may still lose out but in my view that would be outweighed by the fact that it would encourage people to provide for thesmselves.<br /><br />It would also neutralise the resentment people who have saved up feel when they don't get free services which their less careful neighbours get. It happens a lot where I live with the right to buy people, who must often wonder why they bothered.<br /><br />Even politically, I don't see why Camoron would touch universal benefits that his own lower middle class voters are on. Far more so than people like me who are at a lower level & not natural conservatives.asquithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14246701347539264295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-71577014923473432642010-08-18T21:05:52.119+01:002010-08-18T21:05:52.119+01:00I could ask, "Is Cameron a politician?"
...I could ask, "Is Cameron a politician?"<br /><br />As it happens, I think the WFA is an expensive gimmick, but at least it's universal and non-means tested, I suppose.Mark Wadsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07733511175178098449noreply@blogger.com