tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post8187863600109127376..comments2024-01-30T09:22:08.167+00:00Comments on Newmania In Lewes: I Hate the Young .....( and the Old)Newmaniahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-67663613952480849552007-03-02T20:24:00.000+00:002007-03-02T20:24:00.000+00:00Good for you Steven I was really hoping you`d see ...Good for you Steven I was really hoping you`d see this one I was thinking of your frequent articulate gripes.<BR/><BR/>If you pick this up i hope all is wellNewmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-72290131001808328622007-03-02T18:55:00.000+00:002007-03-02T18:55:00.000+00:00'They are usually the recipients of generational w...'They are usually the recipients of generational wealth ,that cascades down from property allowing them not to work ,so they can be a nuisance in politics ,and cash in on property themselves. They are in fact the lottery of life winners' (NM)<BR/><BR/>You mean they are spoilt. My old man never does anything with his cash, he potters around in the garage building things for the garden all day. He spends all evening either watching TV or buying little nick-naks on ebay.<BR/><BR/>If I asked him to stuff a few grand in my bank so I could join Conservative Future and potter around in London not working and making a nuisance of myself he'd just laugh at me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-26660072895824955012007-03-02T18:38:00.000+00:002007-03-02T18:38:00.000+00:00Tell me about it.Luckily my old man isn't one of t...Tell me about it.<BR/><BR/>Luckily my old man isn't one of these greedy swines that wants to sell the house, swan off to Spain and sun it up with the proceeds.<BR/><BR/>In the meantime I'm counting on George W bombing Iran, $150/barrel oil prices should help correct things a little bit.<BR/><BR/>Seriously, the way people whinge on about inflation as if it's a bad thing really bugs me. My Dad's 62 and was working through the high inflationary times of the 70's/80's. His wages kept going up and up whilst the principal of his mortgage stayed locked in time. The result was more and more disposable income.<BR/><BR/>Now the house he bought for £42k is worth more like £325k. He and my Mother have final salary pensions too. They are laughing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-39415259516472809502007-03-01T20:24:00.000+00:002007-03-01T20:24:00.000+00:00I knew you'd have a go at me over this.I knew you'd have a go at me over this.Darkersideofbridgetjoneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01912798692943582924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-41459905541298057452007-03-01T18:45:00.000+00:002007-03-01T18:45:00.000+00:00Ket worker schemes only take even more from thiose...Ket worker schemes only take even more from thiose who are not key workers (aka governemnt workers)more disaster for the beleaguered wealth creating side of the economyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-43331730880802404102007-03-01T17:08:00.000+00:002007-03-01T17:08:00.000+00:00I have to say a well written piece. You clearly ha...I have to say a well written piece. You clearly have a talent - for this blogging business - well done! Now your head is going to get even bigger now. You fucker. <BR/><BR/>It depresses me actually reading this.<BR/><BR/>Although at 34 I am lucky not to have any university debts hanging around my neck - thank God. I think they introduced the loans system the year after I had graduated. However, at this stage I cannot afford to get on the property ladder. I earn just over 25k a year. But, I will be (and don't give me a hard time about thiS) applying for key worker assisted housing scheme. But, sadly I'll only end up earning a third of the property. The good news is as a civil servant I should get a reasonable pension. But, reading your article makes me really depressed I think I'll go and stick my head in a bucket of sand. It's all a bit too much.Darkersideofbridgetjoneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01912798692943582924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-3018220688831086952007-03-01T15:50:00.000+00:002007-03-01T15:50:00.000+00:00I have often wished i had a trade like a ched or a...I have often wished i had a trade like a ched or a caropenter , You could travel easilyNewmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-80275004328012389492007-03-01T14:44:00.000+00:002007-03-01T14:44:00.000+00:00I think you'll find (having out-shifted to Devon ...I think you'll find (having out-shifted to Devon myself) that property values have caught up in many areas. To be honest, my move was from Watford though. It was like-for-like in terms of purchasing power, yet the earning potential is significantly less here. It's been really hard actually. <BR/><BR/>Like the Atlantic Conveyor couldn't it all just 'switch off' at any moment ? Young people just decide to say 'stuff the property market' all of a sudden ? And who would blame them ?<BR/><BR/>Ellee - one big regret I have is not having a trade, I don't regret not having a degree - quite worthless unless you 'professionalise' it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-17366553866174024722007-03-01T14:23:00.000+00:002007-03-01T14:23:00.000+00:00glad to see you catching up here N. People in thei...glad to see you catching up here N. <BR/><BR/>People in their 50's are effectively looting everyone else. This is why Blair grins all the time; him and Cherie are raking it in. All the things you say too, final salary pensions, property - the lot.<BR/><BR/>When the penurous young awake in 2020 - 2030 there will be blood on the street. Old blood of frail people being robbed.<BR/><BR/>And they may well deserve it.CityUnslickerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15929544047783163175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-48888060205540523322007-03-01T13:39:00.000+00:002007-03-01T13:39:00.000+00:00Superb post, N! You really should polish this up a...Superb post, N! You really should polish this up and send it off to the Daily Mail _ it's just the kind of quirky 'modern life with a tory twist' piece they would love _ all illustrated with pics of you en famille in Islington!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-44293795896527501692007-03-01T13:31:00.000+00:002007-03-01T13:31:00.000+00:00absolutely a good plan. i have no truck with inves...absolutely a good plan. i have no truck with investors making money from the crazy housing market (or any other market)!<BR/><BR/>i do object to the interference of the government in the planning system.Old BEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06974090439936326476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-47347726677799426102007-03-01T13:24:00.000+00:002007-03-01T13:24:00.000+00:00and the delicious prospect of buying somewhere els...and the delicious prospect of buying somewhere else, whilst renting out our London flat to some young twenty-somethings to boost the old pension pot for the years to come..! <BR/><BR/><BR/>Swine ...good plan though!Newmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-17110314849160540002007-03-01T13:18:00.000+00:002007-03-01T13:18:00.000+00:00Hmmm, the other day we were discussng the time whe...Hmmm, the other day we were discussng the time when we would move out of London...and the delicious prospect of buying somewhere else, whilst renting out our London flat to some young twenty-somethings to boost the old pension pot for the years to come..!Arthurian Legendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10938610415894666049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-42699825206826645152007-03-01T13:07:00.000+00:002007-03-01T13:07:00.000+00:00Forgot to add:The other shame about the current se...Forgot to add:<BR/><BR/>The other shame about the current set-up is that we are as a nation desperately short of people with non-academic skills such as plumbers and instead of training young people to plumb, we import plumbers from abroad!Old BEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06974090439936326476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-80179611428651229422007-03-01T13:04:00.000+00:002007-03-01T13:04:00.000+00:00Ellee, Newmania is right.Your son won't get any de...Ellee, Newmania is right.<BR/><BR/>Your son won't get any decent (office) job at all without a degree. Encourage him to do a "rigorous" degree subject if he can. I couldn't have got my current job without my degree, but it's a slow-burn career which requires lots more exams!<BR/><BR/>Newmania is also right that the housing market is more of a problem than the jobs market - there just isn't enough housing anywhere, particularly London.Old BEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06974090439936326476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-57494646757538498562007-03-01T12:51:00.000+00:002007-03-01T12:51:00.000+00:00Idon`t think you have any choice if you want a job...Idon`t think you have any choice if you want a job at all Ellee . Its terrible isn`t it they are on a treadmill of having work just to get by.<BR/><BR/>It all revolves around property there is new programme ofn R4 i would love to listen to about just this. Starts next weekNewmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-85295433432314632172007-03-01T12:48:00.000+00:002007-03-01T12:48:00.000+00:00Ed has got me worried because we have to make deci...Ed has got me worried because we have to make decisions in the next year about whether my son goes to uni, which he wants to. But should he start his working life with a huge debt arounbd his neck?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-48902742920437292382007-03-01T12:42:00.000+00:002007-03-01T12:42:00.000+00:00Re: "Uni" debt:I was happy at the time to borrow m...Re: "Uni" debt:<BR/><BR/>I was happy at the time to borrow money to fund my education - borrowing to invest doesn't break the golden rule!<BR/><BR/>The problems are: <BR/><BR/>1. Degrees are now effectively worthless as most are easy to get - meaning that there is no "premium" for a graduate in the job market.<BR/><BR/>2. We were told that student loans would effectively be interest free as the rate of interest charged would only equal inflation. In fact every year the Student Loans Company has increased interest rates - they manage to find an "inflation" rate rather higher than the government's "preferred" figure.Old BEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06974090439936326476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-5663812762693940412007-03-01T12:17:00.001+00:002007-03-01T12:17:00.001+00:00the whole world is really on your shoulders isn't ...the whole world is really on your shoulders isn't it Mr Mania?<BR/><BR/>Nope I wander about with an idiot grin, partly because I just love moaningNewmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-15769098510985243702007-03-01T12:17:00.000+00:002007-03-01T12:17:00.000+00:00And don't get me started on University debt... So ...And don't get me started on University debt... <BR/><BR/>So it is troublesome for you then.......Newmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-17097468546007799192007-03-01T11:58:00.000+00:002007-03-01T11:58:00.000+00:00Very sorry Ed (mean that sincerely, I'm 42 BTW)N ...Very sorry Ed (mean that sincerely, I'm 42 BTW)<BR/><BR/>N - just thought I needed to clarify in order to be fair to Peter Hitchens, he berrated me for mentioning 'house blocking' in problem areas by pensioners.<BR/><BR/>Nasty subject and I felt awful raising it - there're other groups more deserving of analysis.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-21775505687599295102007-03-01T11:38:00.000+00:002007-03-01T11:38:00.000+00:00Nail hit firmly on head there Mr Newmania.People o...Nail hit firmly on head there Mr Newmania.<BR/><BR/>People of my age (27) are paying people of our parents' age rent to live in their third or fouth property, keeping house prices rising and ever further out of our reach.<BR/><BR/>We'll still be paying for the older generations' state pensions long after we know we won't ever receive one ourselves.<BR/><BR/>And don't get me started on University debt...Old BEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06974090439936326476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-63386516544925185412007-03-01T11:37:00.000+00:002007-03-01T11:37:00.000+00:00Nope, N - you got the tone perfectly. I'd never qu...Nope, N - you got the tone perfectly. I'd never quite seen it put like that before though.<BR/><BR/>I wrote to Peter Hitchens about this (not so eloquently) and got bollocked for it. But you've articulated it brilliantly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-30111501084298445962007-03-01T11:36:00.000+00:002007-03-01T11:36:00.000+00:00the whole world is really on your shoulders isn't ...the whole world is really on your shoulders isn't it Mr Mania?<BR/><BR/>answers, we need answers!<BR/><BR/>Is your answer still Dave?<BR/><BR/>PS the Answer is staring you in the face it is of course Master Elliot Horatio: stick with the good things.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-42753386616091524412007-03-01T11:11:00.000+00:002007-03-01T11:11:00.000+00:00Is it ? perhaps i should have been less breezy , I...Is it ? perhaps i should have been less breezy , I was trying to discuss generational inequality. Praps I will be more serious in futureNewmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.com