tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post2926567574580776414..comments2024-01-30T09:22:08.167+00:00Comments on Newmania In Lewes: The Nazi In MeNewmaniahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comBlogger58125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-55098894387244381692007-05-07T20:52:00.000+01:002007-05-07T20:52:00.000+01:00N - there's a difference between leaflets and book...N - there's a difference between leaflets and books but I'll come back to you on this if I may, can't answer properly just now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-87032161850643806122007-05-06T01:17:00.000+01:002007-05-06T01:17:00.000+01:00No I am not .....well not for long anyway Frobo.To...No I am not .....well not for long anyway Frobo.<BR/><BR/>To relax ,,,...go to the office ?<BR/><BR/>*wave*Newmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-57294648160118687332007-05-06T01:06:00.000+01:002007-05-06T01:06:00.000+01:00your awake!your awake!Frobisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139984461096994586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-376235999884154602007-05-06T01:02:00.000+01:002007-05-06T01:02:00.000+01:00Hello! what do you do to relax?Hello! <BR/><BR/>what do you do to relax?Frobisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139984461096994586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-60147896081966230102007-05-05T22:48:00.000+01:002007-05-05T22:48:00.000+01:00from religion to dictatorship, and it is awful. Fr...from religion to dictatorship, and it is awful. From Nazi Germany to Stalinist Russia, I hate that - oppresion in all it's forms.<BR/><BR/>Well P <BR/><BR/><BR/>Really I would be happy to burn the Leaflets handily posted at bus stops suggesting homosexuals should be burnt alive ? I don`t see what is so wrong about destroying lies and cultural filth. If you don1`t think burning books can be the right thing to do you are saying they are powerless . They are not .Newmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-58209745347963262612007-05-05T22:44:00.000+01:002007-05-05T22:44:00.000+01:00Hi WL . The French were not a nation of resisters ...Hi WL . The French were not a nation of resisters partly because France was at war with itself and the threat of Communism and the left , equally totalitarian was resisted in a sense . I wonder sometimes if its too easy to read that story backwards. Never forget that Stalin’s regime was in every way as bad as Hitler`s. <BR/><BR/>I `m sorry I cannot agree with you if you think that racism is such a unique and special evil, trumping all others .It can be a prejudice no different to those all people have about accents , clothes and asy other visual clue about someone. This fades into what you might call judgement and cannot be legislated against. There is a lot of unnecessary panic which sounds like a sort of bourgeois bossiness and has clearly gone to far.<BR/><BR/>Neither do I feel there is the slightest danger of fascism in that sense taking root in this Country , more a sort of spiritual and economic disempowerment that reduces us all bit by tiny bit. I do not therefore panic overly about the BNP . Many of their supporters are not evil people and have . Nowhere else to go “ . Articles in both the Sun and the New Statesmen have made this point in different ways last week . The problem is that the ideology of fascism contains many elements a Conservative might support . The reality is quite different and so is the underlying set of beliefs taken as a whole .<BR/>The wish to stamp out Fascism at birth is used to stamp out free thinking usually on the right and the accusation of racism is used to close down , for example , the immigration question.<BR/><BR/>I think I am rather talking around your point rather than responding directly in that you may well agree with me . What you said seemed to elevate the threat of the totalitarian right above all other threats and that has been a problem. It is especially a problem when people are fighting yesterdays battles and failing to recognise the fascist Theocrats of Islam for what they are according them protected status by culturally relative slither.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for your thoughts this has been a good thread and yours is a great post. Funny how everyone ignores the stuff I work really hard on ….sighNewmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-23683013223394345792007-05-05T21:18:00.000+01:002007-05-05T21:18:00.000+01:00Thankyou Newmania but it really was me and NO kev ...Thankyou Newmania but it really was me and NO kev - I merely said I had highlights that went wrong and I ended up with orange hair - you were the one who attributed the Ronald McD image to me (thanks) <BR/><BR/>Ladies - Newmania is by no means nondescript, he's a honey; really <I>most</I> attractive. <I>And</I> he rides a motorbike. His wife is beautiful though ladies, he's already been taken. His son is not yet of age, it may be a while.<BR/><BR/>Nazi vs communist? N, you may be right (groan) despite the more romantic image of communism (in a beret?) The one thing that was sacrilege for me was burning books. I couldn't countenance that. There is no greater symbol of oppresion for me than suppresing knowledge. So many forms of authority have tried it, from religion to dictatorship, and it is awful. From Nazi Germany to Stalinist Russia, I hate that - oppresion in all it's forms.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-84298646919792065062007-05-05T21:04:00.000+01:002007-05-05T21:04:00.000+01:00Mr N, it's a difficult, agonising question and you...Mr N, it's a difficult, agonising question and you are brave to post it and honest in your answers. But you are a father: would you really have allowed the killing of innocents like your own children to go on before your eyes? I don't think so. <BR/>Resistance / collaboration can go on at so many levels and this is the trouble: We'd all like to think we would have been heroic but the truth is that most of us would have tried just not to be noticed - unless we were in the persecuted minoroties, when we would not have even had that chance. In a Nazi occupied country you could be deemed to be collaborating just by doing your job, because in so doing you were, to an extent, supporting the occupying power, or at least allowing its continued existence. It is pure myth that the French, in WW2, were a nation of resisters - rather the opposite was true, as evidenced in the film "Le Chagrin at la Pitié". How many of us would turn in a neighbour to the authorities if by doing so we could feed our own family for another month / week / day? We who have not experienced it do not know what we would do.<BR/>The books I would recommend on the issue are Ignazio Silone's "Fontamara", Vercors' "Le Silence de la Mer" and André Shwarz-Bart's "The Last of the Just". If I were education minister in any country I would make this last compulsory reading as it shows how easily fascism can take root if we do not fight racism AT THE OUTSET. <BR/>I can't belong to a political party because I can't tow any "line" or agree with anyone for long enough. Like you, I hope my cantankerousness would save me from going along with some odious regime. I just hope I never have to find out.Welshcakes Limoncellohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17209759237794290941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-48099071436709697792007-05-05T16:56:00.000+01:002007-05-05T16:56:00.000+01:00Focus is up, NM.Focus is up, NM.James Highamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14525082702330365464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-19933246749677421172007-05-05T16:02:00.000+01:002007-05-05T16:02:00.000+01:00I start from a low point JH . ( New Statisticians ...I start from a low point JH . ( New Statisticians and moi)Newmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-34064603029454908902007-05-05T14:53:00.000+01:002007-05-05T14:53:00.000+01:00Better and better and better, Newmania.Better and better and better, Newmania.James Highamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14525082702330365464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-76475530214689257252007-05-05T11:08:00.000+01:002007-05-05T11:08:00.000+01:00I am having nightmares of you with a Nazi in you.....I am having nightmares of you with a Nazi in you.... <BR/><BR/>Oh come on JJ how bad could it be ? Some women are such fuss pots .<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>( You know I `m kidding right ?)Newmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-10084319330164822922007-05-05T11:06:00.000+01:002007-05-05T11:06:00.000+01:00Children are vulnerable to being positively encour...Children are vulnerable to being positively encouraged to develop different values from their parents.<BR/><BR/>And what a symtom to be watching for HG.... I have see New Labours attack on the family and cutural ties at sub state level as sinister but I had never thought of calling it fascist before .<BR/><BR/>How very interesting HG ...( As you always are !!)Newmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-34193276855878974242007-05-05T11:04:00.000+01:002007-05-05T11:04:00.000+01:00Are you sure that she didn't send a pretty friend ...Are you sure that she didn't send a pretty friend to meet you ? <BR/><BR/><BR/>Yes , funny you say that EK because i have had the same idea. I once spoke to a girl in one of those phone clubs claiming that i was a very good looking person nearby.<BR/>Itwas a remarkable experience , Robert Redford said something interesting about it .He said , his whole life people have wanted to know him and help him just because iof the way he looks. Its hard to stay sane .<BR/><BR/>)( Not that I `m especially hideous just ..nondescript)<BR/><BR/>Phillipa is abit of a sex pot in real life thoughNewmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-13922573255740179962007-05-05T09:52:00.000+01:002007-05-05T09:52:00.000+01:00Individual allegiance to the ideas and aims of the...Individual allegiance to the ideas and aims of the state is central in fascism, so anything that reinforces family ties and the family as the basic social unit, gets it; and school becomes an induction not an education. Children are vulnerable to being positively encouraged to develop different values from their parents.<BR/><BR/>It's this that would end the Nazi in any of us, I think.hatfield girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12673905475452420002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-21540304447722131532007-05-05T08:11:00.000+01:002007-05-05T08:11:00.000+01:00I keep thinking that the title of this post is por...I keep thinking that the title of this post is porn. I am having nightmares of you with a Nazi in you....jungle janehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12146260682331683654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-980845896707628002007-05-05T07:28:00.000+01:002007-05-05T07:28:00.000+01:00For many the conditions don't feel secure, economi...For many the conditions don't feel secure, economic or otherwise - much of this 'boom' is base on a more relaxed attitude to credit (but the worry is starting to bite) and the acceptance of slave labour so long as it is based abroad or hidden in our black economy. <BR/><BR/>But the worst Blairist crime is the onslaught against cultural and National identity - people are waking to the fact that important levees which have, in the past, protected us from the big bad world have been undermined.<BR/><BR/>By the way, Philipa once told me that she looked (what I would describe as) a messed up version of Ronald McDonald. Are you sure that she didn't send a pretty friend to meet you ?Electro-Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18073103431166273080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-4549037870424935002007-05-05T06:52:00.000+01:002007-05-05T06:52:00.000+01:00T Boy - Pretty much everyone gets liquidated in th...T Boy - Pretty much everyone gets liquidated in the end . I must say I hadn`t thought of the pro Iraq war angle in the company of the bleeding edge .<BR/>I was at any questions listening to Harriet Harman Fraces Maude and Nick Clegg and it was in the hall of a local Comp<BR/>( The one that used to be a Grammar and is in the best catchmemt area . People buy flats next to it )<BR/><BR/><BR/>The audience were the classic Metropoltan left and in a tedious hour the only thing that got a good boo or cheer was the "Illegal war" . An astonshing unanimity of opnion , with which I disagree.I would find it very hard to put up with that for long.<BR/><BR/>It does amaze me that in such clement economic conditions Blair has become quite so unpopular. La Harman said people are only saying that Labour has to chnage and i thought ...yes but into what ?. If you bread the New Statesman they suggest they are not left wing enough.<BR/><BR/>They need to cut taxes significantly and the Party won`t allow it .I don`t think you can blame Ieraq . The Liberals are performing atrocioauly .Newmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-42505871029587816902007-05-04T23:15:00.000+01:002007-05-04T23:15:00.000+01:00I said true dissidents are those who are prepared ...I said true dissidents are those who are prepared to say controversial things to friends AND those who they normally agree with - is there anyone who you normally agree with?<BR/><BR/>Believe me I have form on saying controversial things in the circles in which I move - being pro Iraq war has not been 100% comfortable. <BR/><BR/>In your case - if the Nazi's came to power my guess is that you might support them initially - but would be liquidated fairly quickly for deviating from the "true path" or whatever they would call it. The question is would you put my name on list before they got to you?<BR/><BR/>If anyone is looking for reading matter on how fascism could take route in a western society I'h highly recommend Philip Roth's "Plot agaist America"tory boys never grow uphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11172736984147732661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-5215547762723314932007-05-04T23:13:00.000+01:002007-05-04T23:13:00.000+01:00CU I didn`t notice anything semitic about your app...CU I didn`t notice anything semitic about your appearance actually and I think that is just avoidin the question.<BR/><BR/>Russia ....ooops times overNewmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-84870870784700163612007-05-04T22:31:00.000+01:002007-05-04T22:31:00.000+01:00being of raterh obvious genetic Jewish stock, I ha...being of raterh obvious genetic Jewish stock, I have some confidence in prediciting that I would not be welcome/seduced by the Nazi's.<BR/><BR/>So, what would you do in Soviet Russia circa 1993 Newmaina?CityUnslickerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15929544047783163175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-54437379043667746112007-05-04T22:26:00.000+01:002007-05-04T22:26:00.000+01:00Just got bascak from any questions Ed my goodness ...Just got bascak from any questions Ed my goodness it was dull.Newmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-16804851526222324672007-05-04T22:24:00.000+01:002007-05-04T22:24:00.000+01:00...an MP ..why not ? Beats workingLOL!<I>...an MP ..why not ? Beats working</I><BR/><BR/>LOL!Old BEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06974090439936326476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-34881606788173646652007-05-04T22:20:00.000+01:002007-05-04T22:20:00.000+01:00EK I think what you say is to some extent happeni...EK I think what you say is to some extent happening.Newmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-10114707036458931762007-05-04T22:19:00.000+01:002007-05-04T22:19:00.000+01:00I know not of these things. I only know about kitt...I know not of these things. I only know about kittens. and embroidery. Thank you. <BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>You will make alovely wife for someone JJ but before you do learn to fucking cook !!!( A bit of ironing wouldn`t hurt either )<BR/>You see I believe that women should raise their expectations and worth through training and education.<BR/>* Grins awaiting tears of gratitude*Newmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.com