tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post1123704067230543822..comments2024-01-30T09:22:08.167+00:00Comments on Newmania In Lewes: Green Flag Raised over IslingtonNewmaniahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-70151340832756722702007-03-14T13:45:00.000+00:002007-03-14T13:45:00.000+00:00PS not against credit, just against CHEAP credit. ...PS not against credit, just against CHEAP credit. I believe it exists precisely because it fits Blair/Brown's economic model - these guys are truly schizophrenic in what they say and what they do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-23277011987681620622007-03-13T23:29:00.000+00:002007-03-13T23:29:00.000+00:00probably establishment now, hence the change, it h...probably establishment now, hence the change, it happens to some. <BR/><BR/><BR/>Not me . I `ve tried and I can`t. Seriously . <BR/><BR/>Now Elee I know you`ve been banned in China but I wouldn`t get carried away.This sneering at the establishment ,is that going to go down well with the movers and shakers of Cambridge ?Newmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-66528786628317605602007-03-13T21:58:00.000+00:002007-03-13T21:58:00.000+00:00Peter Gruner is probably establishment now, hence ...Peter Gruner is probably establishment now, hence the change, it happens to some.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-15117181145041076442007-03-13T20:08:00.000+00:002007-03-13T20:08:00.000+00:00I don't know where my ideas come from either. Perh...I don't know where my ideas come from either. Perhaps it's working in "meat world" that does it. Or maybe it's the medication.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-54025997742407168712007-03-13T19:58:00.001+00:002007-03-13T19:58:00.001+00:00Phillipa ..maybe you haven`t met the right men ?Phillipa ..maybe you haven`t met the right men ?Newmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-2389235199000033182007-03-13T19:58:00.000+00:002007-03-13T19:58:00.000+00:00How ineresting Ellee , he is doimg agreat job of b...How ineresting Ellee , he is doimg agreat job of bringing the Tribune to life and seems nice enough.<BR/><BR/>Bit of a lush but ok so farNewmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-36474825179152314072007-03-13T19:56:00.000+00:002007-03-13T19:56:00.000+00:00Kev you have such original ideas that I am never q...Kev you have such original ideas that I am never quite sure where ti vcome from . I cannot seriously think that we are going to abandon credit which is the basis of bankin and thefore the Western WorldNewmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-53982030038502332012007-03-13T18:13:00.000+00:002007-03-13T18:13:00.000+00:00Sexist.Sexist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-36217362144187701682007-03-13T18:08:00.000+00:002007-03-13T18:08:00.000+00:00ellee - always promises that come to nothing? That...ellee - always promises that come to nothing? That's men for you!Philipahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03440234602399886097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-73564747866683343492007-03-13T16:55:00.000+00:002007-03-13T16:55:00.000+00:00... and does all this mean that British coal will ...... and does all this mean that British coal will never be used ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-63812057098051613312007-03-13T16:26:00.000+00:002007-03-13T16:26:00.000+00:00Newmania,Don't you think Blair and Brown have been...Newmania,<BR/><BR/>Don't you think Blair and Brown have been a tad ... er ... overrated ? Not in the same league as Putin however nasty the man may be.<BR/><BR/>As regards CO2 - China is the likely to be the worst culprit, building coal power stations prolifically. Yet here we are with our cheap credit buying up their goods with ghusto.<BR/><BR/>Credit - the surest way to ensure people consume far more than they've earned. That includes petrol and household gas too. Massively destructive for the environment in all ways.<BR/><BR/>What do Blair/Brown/Cameron intend to do about it ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-63428039222741845952007-03-13T11:11:00.000+00:002007-03-13T11:11:00.000+00:00I remember Peter Gruner now, I rang him up a few t...I remember Peter Gruner now, I rang him up a few times when he was the London Evening Standard environment correspondant, but I never had much joy with him, always promises that came to nothing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-69542894828583365412007-03-13T10:07:00.000+00:002007-03-13T10:07:00.000+00:00Peter Gruner's name sounds familiar, I wonder if w...Peter Gruner's name sounds familiar, I wonder if we met in a previous life, perhaps you can ask him if my name rings any bells next time you speak, whether he has ever had a Cambridge connection. I would like to read the report when it is published and see what this money has been spent on, perhaps you can post the link.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-16409376600344642922007-03-12T23:26:00.000+00:002007-03-12T23:26:00.000+00:00Ed BTW for obvious reasons I take a very lenient v...Ed BTW for obvious reasons I take a very lenient view of spelling .... I can spell but I cannot type.<BR/><BR/>You will be pleased to know that that is me done for this week on serious stuf. A few gags but otherwise and I am off to other peoples sites....Newmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-3603114454920103722007-03-12T23:24:00.000+00:002007-03-12T23:24:00.000+00:00CU- It does not tax your ( first) holiday and appa...CU- It does not tax your ( first) holiday and apparently the taxes are going ot be given back with your transferable married man`s alowance. OK its a bit wibbly wobbly but it makes sense on the face of it...doesn`t it ..<BR/>I `m somewhat loathe to disagree with you I must say but I think soNewmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-75650590191006245452007-03-12T23:22:00.000+00:002007-03-12T23:22:00.000+00:00It is utterly spurious, of course. There is an exc...It is utterly spurious, of course. There is an excellent market mechanism to address CO2 emissions (the EU Emissions Trading Scheme, IF properly run, = auctioning allowances not giving them away). And security of supply is enhanced by greater market liquidity / flexibility / liberalisation.<BR/><BR/><BR/> A resounding "maybe" to that Nick. If you look at my next post I have questioned the detial of markets in CO2 offsetting and the EU system will never work( IMHO).<BR/><BR/>Nonetheless I agree that this is the right way to goNewmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-59817338006225958132007-03-12T23:19:00.000+00:002007-03-12T23:19:00.000+00:00Kev I think david has a very good point indeed the...Kev I think david has a very good point indeed there . Ruthy , bad hair , Lea agrees with you David . I doubt the ability of the government to organise a world wide fraud but agree that green taxes are a good idea to get us off fossil fuels for security reasons if nothing elseNewmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-76890059651303436982007-03-12T23:17:00.000+00:002007-03-12T23:17:00.000+00:00Ed Labour have always been quite bellicose. Theyvw...Ed Labour have always been quite bellicose. Theyvwerer anti Eu until it became a way of importing Socialism. the words national and Socilaism are not unknown to eachother ...( Godwin`s theory)Newmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-13960298782912149162007-03-12T22:27:00.000+00:002007-03-12T22:27:00.000+00:00cameron is not going to get my vote if he thinks t...cameron is not going to get my vote if he thinks taxing my holidays is a way to make me happy.<BR/><BR/>Idiotic policy from the Tories; worse as you point out it only encourages the socialists who have adopted a green flag to do evern worse damage.CityUnslickerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15929544047783163175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-79070343410818260032007-03-12T22:12:00.000+00:002007-03-12T22:12:00.000+00:00DA, you are close to the mark here. Several highly...DA, you are close to the mark here. Several highly unlikely recent 'green' converts (continental utilities, to be precise) are latching onto both issues (environmental, and security of supply) to argue that energy market liberalisation be thrown into reverse. Just restore their old monopoly powers and they promise to solve both problems. (And yes, Kev, they are lobbying hard to keep their nucs going + build more.)<BR/><BR/>It is utterly spurious, of course. There is an excellent market mechanism to address CO2 emissions (the EU Emissions Trading Scheme, IF properly run, = auctioning allowances not giving them away). And security of supply is <I>enhanced</I> by greater market liquidity / flexibility / liberalisation.<BR/><BR/>Coupled with diversifying the sources of supply, of course, which is happening pretty much as rapidly as possible. Which doesn't mean that Russia won't command good prices in the market - it will, but so will any producer of valuable commodities.<BR/><BR/>Interestingly, as I pointed out on CU last week, the Observer carried an article saying that Centrica is roaming the globe looking for new sources of gas, but (so the article said) is being warned off Iran and Russia by HMG. Joined-up govt?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-84172387633170095312007-03-12T21:36:00.000+00:002007-03-12T21:36:00.000+00:00Interesting point David Allen. A case for nuclear...Interesting point David Allen. A case for nuclear power stations surely ? I dread to think what such a tactic would do for the prospect of reopening our coal seams too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-469107854536272402007-03-12T20:43:00.000+00:002007-03-12T20:43:00.000+00:00Actually, DA, I think the energy security and anti...Actually, DA, I think the energy security and anti-middle-east-oil arguments are much more persuasive!Old BEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06974090439936326476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-90581033370600829932007-03-12T20:04:00.000+00:002007-03-12T20:04:00.000+00:00N, I can see how much certain vested interests hav...N, I can see how much certain vested interests have to gain from man-made global warming being accepted as fact _ and govts.s too _ all those extra taxes! But I wonder how much of it may just be a publicly acceptable narrative to tackle the problems of energy security? Blair and Brown can hardly come out and say:<BR/>"Putin is turning into another Stalin _ and (now that nearly everyone has gas central heating) if he turns off the gas taps, hundreds of thousands of Brits may die of hypothermia." They can hardly say either: "We are sick to death of propping up odious middle eastern regimes all to secure our oil supply and thereby funding the house of Sauud to convert the whole of the Islamic world to their anti-human and dangerous form of Wahabite Islam, a clear and present threat _ and would like to be able to say 'sod your oil'." Far easier to take all the public policy measures under the guise of combating global public warming....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-26861515979933509012007-03-12T20:00:00.000+00:002007-03-12T20:00:00.000+00:00Sorry I meant practise.I should really start pract...Sorry I meant practise.<BR/><BR/>I should really start practising what I preach...!Old BEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06974090439936326476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35649541.post-70738015822136316592007-03-12T19:58:00.000+00:002007-03-12T19:58:00.000+00:00Again on localism, if local councils were able to ...Again on localism, if local councils were able to practice what they preached, people would soon vote them out for wasting and taxing.<BR/><BR/>Interesting that all those CNDLabour types are now in the government which is pushing New Trident through, possibly ahead of time!Old BEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06974090439936326476noreply@blogger.com